Canon's EOS R3 can shoot bursts at up to 30 fps with autofocus enabled, so it's ideal for sports and action. You might say with the better LCD the A7iv will be more 'professional' and no doubt thousands of professions will buy and use it. In comparison, the Sony A1, a7S III and Panasonic's S1H all have rugged full-size HDMI connectors. Speaking of crippling, Sony didnt put their S Cinetone profile in the a7s iii at first. Theowl360Hahah what a text book troll/attack post. I suspect the A1 in its 240hz mode is on the order of 5ms. Now it's what they *do* with that input that counts ;). @armandinoSo - overpriced and underwhelming - yet will sell lots..seems a little - contradictory. I don't know if it's the pandemic, the chip shortage, or concerns regarding marketability at whatever cost it'd end up at after everything was said and done, but that isn't a matter of time. But again, it's nice to have ECAF in stills and right now only Canon offers that. Only problem is i'm not a rich weightlifter. Look at the indicator displayed and press the button. So I wait. Why not the R5?If the R6 is good enough but you want more MP?Looks like the R5 has your name on it. If you think thats not fast enough I have a bridge to sell you. M50 has no controls, m6 has no Vf. Unless you're moving to SONY or Nikon. In the end you got it right though- it all depends on the point of view. The R3 is facing the same issue as the A1: too many competent cameras are excellent at delivering what sport photographers need for much less. It makes sense, eye-control for video could be very useful for professionals. Simmern Postal address: Konrad-Adenauer-Platz 8 56410 Montabaur Deutschland: Simmern Phone number: 02602 1260 International: +49 2602 1260: Simmern Fax number Low resolution? Would love to try the R3 one day. @Kandid:No, that leaves YOU with my first statement.Since I am using a reasonably priced camera with 61 MP and good battery life my point of view would definitely support Option 2. Free speech applies to all :). This is medium - low resolution has been reserved for the A7S3. . I though that too but since the X-T3 with the "OVF Mode", I changed my mind. We also dont know if they subcon the bonding. Why do people keep mentioning it? New headset will arrive early 2024 in the US and cost $3499. In our briefing we were explicitly told this is not the same processor as in the R5 and R6, despite the branding. I think the R3 will be smaller than the R1, because the larger bodies just need to be large and heavy for the kind of work they are being used for. Looking at your website, I not not see anything that a mirrirless and an EVF cannot handle, as a fact, I think something like the R3/R5/A1/a9II would be beneficial. Look at the subject and the AF point is there, with no buttons to press or slide across. And all of the other reviewers are also vested interest? Who knows what else. And like Renesais and Nikon they can could it what ever, the best sensors survives, It might be a while due to the chip shortage, but Sony I bet will make an A9 with a professional body. 24 MP is smallish by today's standards, but 30 MP would be just fine. But that is personal. Through my OVF I get none of that. The senor is likely more than double the cost. !Makes me want to grab it and start taking photographs.. Obviously, this is a terrific camera. As a manager or a programmer? . I work as a designer and I do some coding. In my opinion, there's no telling when that will all actually happen, so it's safe to assume that there'll be no absolute need to upgrade anytime soon. CPS is good that way. Now I see that the companies producing cameras have returned to make sensor with a smaller number of photodiode, this because it has seen that sony with r4 obtained performance below r3, ie more noise, second to dpreview itself. In our shooting, this mode appeared to be just as detailed as the standard mode. Unlike R5/R6/R3 that goes to -6~-7.5, -5EV on R7 is similar to Sony 3rd gen a7s/a9ii AF system. With this change, Canon finally comes into line with the behavior of every other camera on the market. I like the 100 fps in video. It will switch between each of these features automatically so that it doesn't lose your subject if they look away or completely turn away from the camera. Its gonna be a little bit less than last time. A small feature, but one that shows how fundamentally Canon has re-thought this camera is the ability to directly capture a custom white balance reading. No camera overheat by taking pictures. My next thing got to be global shutter, unless any of the bodies I have will let me down before. I hope it has an LCD that articulates left and right too like the A7Siii. So then the truth was revealed and Sony finally added S Cinetone to the a7 s iii by software update. Caught up and probably surpassed with a few features such as ecaf and shooting speed. Connectivity is one of the features that is of great importance to many professionals, and unfortunately, the one that we've had the least amount of time to test. And I will definitely trust the judgement of those who've used the device over someone who has not. @Kandidas I said I think right now Canon is hiding behind the brainwash that the bigger the better to have competitive battery life. Instead of creating a camera that can shoot both fast and high resolution, the Canon EOS R3 uses a less-headline-worthy 24.1-megapixel sensor. It is not about ergonomics, but about range. I am very glad that there is finally some competition in this space. This process is repeated for indicators at five positions (center, right, left, top, and bottom). There's also an option to shoot the squarer, 16:9 UHD format, which essentially crops the sides in, compared to DCI capture. You should read all of my comments about this camera. Keep looking at the indicator without blinking until it disappears. Maybe more than the A9ii and A1 combined. Glad to have one of the first ones, ordered it in July. No one complained about 20MP files being slow to edit 5 years ago. The R3 is simply an R6 in a 'butch' body. meters), tornadoes, and active volcano craters. A plane crash leaves the mirrorless flagships overexposed to the dynamic range of elements. Just as in stills, where it can shoot HDR images in 10-bit HEIF format, the R3 can also shoot 10-bit HDR footage using the PQ curve. Canon does it in cameras that cost lower than the A1. this sounds more like what the r6 should has been, besides the bigger body. But apparently its too complicated now. Problem is that the EF mount is being phased out. Truth is Owl really, really doesn't like Canons implementation of eye af, despite never using it and despite the positive first impressions of those that have.Maybe he'll change his mind if this feature works really well in real world situations, but I wont hold me breath, unless of course if Sony comes up with a version of it, then it will be the best thing since sliced bread.I am still on the fence because we need to see it in use across multiple scenarios and by different people, however every initial impression review I've read so far is really positive. Why wouldnt you want the resolution if there is no physical drawback? The Eye Controlled AF system is easy to calibrate, and calibration settings can be saved for instant recall, and even swapped between bodies via memory card. Anyone saying the Eye control is a gimmick without ever trying it have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. @petteriJ What MikeRan said. As for those ideas you mentioned - computational photography could have come to pro cameras by now. There's no reason to insult TheOwl360. Any pro would benefit from having a cached buffer in those instances, along with Eye Control, the more aids the better IMO, for pros or amateurs. Look, this feature is nice but good review process is to cover earlier concerns which occured in the past. So you dont think cameras are smart enough to determine a subject and track it when it moves around the frame?Do you think they can determine what is an animals eye and track it? @Kandid:No hate. It will act as a wide-angle for full-frame cameras or as 45mm equivalent normal lens on APS-C bodies. You know electronics drive those lasers? Then they put it in the higher priced a1. . Holding and using the Canon EOS R3 is very comfortable. The full-frame EOS R3 is Canon's most impressive mirrorless camera to date, offering 30 fps continuous shooting with AF, 6K Raw video capture, and a rugged twin grip design. Nikon and Sony are famous for doing this as well. "Also, I am very concerned about exposure, contrast, color and I find the EVF's add/distort/change what I was seeing" Well if you are shooting sports you should be able to appreciate to be able to assess the exposure BEFORE taking the shot. @tvstaff"At night I shoot athletes with a pair of 600 watt strobes to capture acrobatics over the water, The modeling lights cannot reach out so The EVF's are not giving me the same "tool" I have with my OVF for night. Internet has become a toilet- but people made it that way. What most people fail to understand that pro's don't buy and hold on to their gear based on the spec sheet of a particular camera brand. They might surprize you with a plausible explanation. I am willing to bet the A7iv has a newer LCD like the A7RivA and near identical body to the A1/A9ii. :). What is it with Sony users? But just on paper. Set toward the negative end to make the pointer less responsive. Finally, I would just ask TheOwl360 what his endgame is? By the way I never even insinuated that canon crippled the R3 video by not including ECAF. You guys - gotta love ya. It's usually called wishful thinkingbut if you live in certain neighborhoods of Los Angeles, New York, and (possibly) London, it's called The Law of Attraction and there are books, seminars, and manifestation coaches who can help you make it a part of your life. The Pros WANT 24mp? Or other reasons, but I do not think noise is the issue. Yes the R3 look like a fantastic camera, just hard to justify the money. The EOS R3 sits above the R5 in terms of both price and capability, taking it much closer to the company's flagship EOS-1D X III DSLR, which is designed for similar sports/wildlife/photojournalism shooting. Eye control area (orange circle) is detected and AF point is fixed Focus instantly shifts to bike on right * With default camera settings, the orange circle (pointer) display can be toggled by half-pressing the shutter button Previously installed eye control AF The shortages are probably due to the general shortage of everything we have nowadays due to covid and Intel's failed 10nm semi manufacturing. Look at moving from HD to 4K. I clicked on Nikon Z9 Inital Review & Samples on the front page and I ended up here??? With SLR cameras with no or just a slow motor drive (2-3 fps), you simply had to practice the camera to know before joining the battle. TRU, let me recycle your own arguments since you recycle them so often: Do you think your rabid defense of every Canon product will lead to Canon making you their brand ambassador ? The best cameras for wildlife photography (at 3 budgets), OM System OM-1 vs Canon EOS R3 Indoor Sports Shootout, Canon EOS R3 vs. Nikon Z9 vs. Sony a1 Flagship Mirrorless Comparison. We've been taking a look at what it offers and what it's like to shoot with. I shoot sports and events in dark conditions all the time, I would really have hard time go back to the the OVF just for that. Family moments are precious and sometimes you want to capture that time spent with loved ones or friends in better quality than your phone can manage. The pointer may not always be displayed, depending on the state of the camera. With [: AF area] set to [Whole area AF], the camera focuses in the area near the pointer. You can also load calibration data from a card to use it. The second part is obvious. Looks rather overpriced IMHO but otherwise I like the form factor and eye AF. The process of registering characteristics of your line of sight for accurate detection of eye movement by the camera in viewfinder shooting is called calibration. That was true when mirrorless first came out. Something that just slides in and locks in place, both camera and grip independently sealed. If not, it will fatigue and frustrate the shooter, who will turn it off and revert to manual mode. For a camera that is put forward as having relatively low pixel count but strong in high ISO, I see a real missed opportunity in the sample images. I can't wait to hold it because for me it seems about ideal. Take a look at some sample photos and grab the Raw files to see what it can do! KZ7- Just fyi I haven't seen the other comments by TheOwl360, only this one, and my replies are based just on that. The r4 has more noise than the r3 but there is no evidence that 20-24MP is the sweet spot for resolution/noise. Canon 1D X iii or. Or perhaps the profile wasnt tested enough with the new sensor with the A7siii was released so they added it later. This of course comes at the cost of detail & contrast, particularly in low contrast shadows. Block out sunlight, to the extent possible, by keeping your face close to the viewfinder. Canon announces EOS R7 and R10 with APS-C sensors; The Canon EOS R5 C is a hybrid Cinema EOS camera based on the R5; Canon announces EOS R3 with eye control autofocus I have had so many people comment on my preference for an OVF in such a condescending way. We dont know if they make the stacked logic chip (the processes are likely quite different) . I doubt that one would make their choice of equipment based on that one feature alone. Good to know - wonder why Canon and Nikon dont know that? While next to me as.myself were four other professional sports photographers. I put food.on the table shooting sports and I've not seen an EVF yet that equals my OVF for shooting the types of sports I do. It's something we'll look at much more critically when we have more time with a full-production camera. Fantastic machine, but somehow I am not that excited. or 2) to instill a higher sense of urgency to purchase/reserve/preorder from customers. I don't know why Canon chose micro HDMI, but it's seems a bit off to think that it is to protect their cinema line. And what about the mirror blackout? What is your end-game here ? Video being layers of complexity above stills, I would imagine that may be some details to be worked through. The HF Anti-flicker mode lets you fine-tune your shutter speed to avoid clashing with the refresh rate of fast-flickering displays and lighting. This means your AF point positioning doesn't have to be pixel-perfect for the camera to focus on the correct subject. So you need to learn the combination to know. "The idea the tech can sense, based upon ones eye movement, where to focus when shooting complex action scenes and that through such mechanism/interface there is going to be some kind of reciprocal communication between photographer and camera is fanciful nonsense.". Try going into a sports bar in NYC and criticizing the Yankees, and then when you meet a reaction, playing the victim and acting like you are so surprised and they shouldn't do that. No doubt Sony had yield issues years ago when they started shipping the A9 but the global supply chain crisis going on today wasnt a factor back then. However the signals themselves move very quickly. My favorite part of all is this simple fact: Few can afford this. @Alam12 from my recollection of Physics 2, the electrons physically move slowly, but the propagation of the electron movement down the wire is very close to the speed of light. But to, while I appreciate the advantages of an EVF, I still will always have a fond spot in my heart for an OVF. focusing distance) and an additional 100mm reach. Every EVF I've used has "Bloomed" out when I go into the sun. Today's top 40 Electronic Technician jobs in Coblenz, Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany. So some argue Sony is trying to save size and weight, by leaving off those features and using a smaller low resolution LCD. With the AF area set to an option other than [Whole area AF], the camera focuses after moving the AF area to the pointer position. Note: not every design decision that you don't like involves the manufacturer protecting another product line. When you are finished entering text, press the. Canon has said that the EOS R3 isn't a flagship, but it's big, fast, weather sealed and has a ton of features. This is 2021 and we have super fast transfer technologies, SSDs, acres of storage for not much money and computers that laugh at 100mp image files. If theres a temp warning its for video only. . The same reason crop cameras ever existed and were cheaper than full frame. . Stabilization, comfort, balance of larger lenses, and durability (comes with the territory). I like to shoot fast, jets, birds, surfers and many times at night. Maybe you could also let us know how you managed to get it when it hasn't been released yet? That is what the R3 is. This might be a reason for a crop R7 sports camera. @armandinoI agree that the A1 looks better value for most photographers (maybe not pro sports shooters ?) The focus guide (1) is displayed where you are looking. Specifically, it's been trained to recognize racing cars and motorbikes and Canon says it may not perform to its full ability if pointed at domestic vehicles. They certainly are capable of making a big and heavy body and to this point have gone through great efforts to pack more technology into the smaller size. Advances in tracking have changed the way I shoot, helping me compose scenes on the fly and letting me keep a step back to look at the bigger picture happening, but I'm iffy on this eye control until I've had hands on. Part of what makes the R3 stand out from the R5 is its much faster (and hence, more usable) electronic shutter, which immediately invokes Sony's a9 II as a competitor. Pay as much as the R3 for sure! And I suspect no, Sony wont make a big and heavy body. @ TheOwl360: Have you tried this feature now? How fast do your vision refresh?). Many sports photographers have no issues at all with EVF, especially in their latest iterations. I'm curious to see when or if we'll ever see USB-C used for video out on cameras, although I dunno that USB-C is any more robust (but there's the potential to have dual USB-C ports for different purposes, redundancy, etc.). Eye control is less accurate if the same calibration number is used for calibration under different eyewear conditions (such as with or without glasses or contact lenses) or by multiple users. LOLyou really are worried about that eye control AF aren't you? the R3 is a stop gap measure while Canon figures out and improve their battery and heat management. You dont process them all. But that warning shows up even when taking pictures to warn you in case you want to switch to video. What link did you look at?In my link the cameras were all about the same size. Everyone has a different opinion and they are all right at any given time. Yep, ovf's need to stay. The fact is that who wants such large bodies are for the most part the ones who have always shot with them and could not care less for innovation while drawing irrational comfort from what they are accustomed to. Response time differ from person to person. This process is repeated for indicators at five positions (center, right, left, top, and bottom). Stacked BSI sensors require a complex manufacturing process, which pushes the unit price up, because so many sensors will fail quality checks from manufacturing defects. If you think this is significant theres another bridge I can sell you also. You are then one who is mistaken and probably isn't even look at the link. Incredible.It took Canon a long time to get here, but this is just a stunning technological achievement. So you get a series of AF points and zones of various sizes, but now with a choice to use any of them as the start-point for subject tracking (rather than Tracking being a completely separate mode). The latest Leica Q camera ups the megapixels but retains Leica's legendary colors. I'm sure the same can be said about Nikon's tanks like the legendary D700, The Legendary D700 is going through its second life!https://www.facebook.com/groups/330500120976297/, The thing you have to ask yourself. So the issue gets complicated and messy, with so many types of users out there, and so many types of equipment dependencies out there. I handed my 1DXMKIII in "manual" with a f/2.8 300 IS USM II to two photographers at a recent kitesurfing event, they were both using EVF's and wanted to take a few bursts. Why is what so important? Looking through the posts you see very few similar posts from Nikon users. My 1DXMKII with a 2.8 300 II gets me 1600 shots at times. They wouldnt acknowledge that a9 stacked CMOS sensor let's it do things that r5 can't like blackout free shooting and and silent shooting with no motion artifacts. It will still be a paperweight or a $200 special on eBay within 5-8 years. The ergonomics are great, and every button or switch . I have already indicated the source of your comment (Sony worship) and of course it is a red herring. They do care, 50 mpix means you fill the card with 1.5 gigabyte of file per second, nobody pixel peep for sport photo and only one of this 30 file is going to be used if you're lucky, if not, you create 1.5 gigabyte trash per second. The R100 is Canon's smallest and lightest EOS R camera, aimed at entry level users to bring those seeking hybrid functions into the RF lens mount. Also notice all video tests are at 4k25P? Artist and alchemist Markus Hofsttter is all about pushing the boundaries of possibility when it comes to analog photography. The camera is only 1,014 grams, which is less compared to the Canon EOS 1D X Mark III. Smart man. Sure, you could go old-school and break out the Clone Stamp, but new tools and features, including AI-assisted technologies, give you more options for removing unwanted elements in far less time. I'm going to shock you here by stating I think the eye control is a cool feature, probably the main thing that makes the R3 stand out from the competition. The first part is silly. Yes there is lag. Keep on barking. Select a calibration number matching your eyewear conditions (such as with or without glasses). @ Impulses: The training improves your skills. I'm late to the 'party' here but it looks like Canon has more/less caught up to the A9. See https://bit.ly/3eTNJKx, https://www.dpreview.com/articles/9828108143/dpreview-readers-choice-awards-product-of-the-year?comment=4396611706. It just occurred to me, what if the reason eye-control focus is unavailable for video is the same as why Canon didn't give the camera a full-size HDMI port ? This lets you manually fine-tune the shutter speed in very fine increments to find a speed that minimizes banding in the image. A higher yield per wafer that results in a lower cost per unit. Pressing the shutter button halfway confirms the subject to focus on. Eye Control AF can be used in a number of still image shooting scenarios, from shooting portraits to animals, landscapes, macro and sport. Out of 53 samples, 41 are below ISO 1600, 1 image ISO 3200, 6 up to ISO 6400 and 5 up to ISO 12800. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/amp/photography/tips-and-solutions/how-photograph-sun, https://camerasize.com/compact/#870,777,862,ha,b, https://www.dpreview.com/news/7460252626/apple-warns-that-high-powered-motorcycles-can-damage-autofocus-image-stabilization-in-iphones, https://www.facebook.com/groups/330500120976297/, Nikon Z9 review: a DSLR-like stills/video monster, DPReview TV: Which Camera Will Survive? Both can live together in peaceful harmony on the camera market. No lag on mirrorless is impossible, electron charge cannot travel faster than electro-magnetic wave propagation as it travel by collision, it need a medium that exist first in space-time then make a jump, electro-magnetic wave propagate as fast as existence of time, no need to wait for medium to exist and collide. Canon is taking a gamble that the photographers. No way these are stacked and wire bonded. We "all" said we wanted to try the Z9 but that was the only other camera anyone had even an interest in exploring even with the EVF. Being able to shoot into the sun with an OVF vs an EVF and have true color rendition and no lag And battery life without overheating. The R3 HAS TO HAVE THE BIG GRIP to last decently long for a pro at its price point. If you opened the spigot with a 100ft hose connected that was already full of water you would know at the end of the hose instantly that the valve was opened. You can enter names to identify calibration data. I would agree - considering that the A9 came out four years ago and costs half as much. This is noticeably slower than the ~5ms the sensor can read out its full area at, despite video being taken from a vertically cropped region of the sensor. It would be very hard to ignore. Hey Thoughts. I have a high res body and a better low light camera both of which perform well. The OVF latitude is not what you get and you need to adjust for that. So here it is again: Explain to us if you can why using a cheap fragile micro-HDMI port on a $6,000 camera intended for professional use is good for Canon's customers. @DualSystemGuy, I agree with you, esp as to #2) above. The HDMI port thing is a valid criticism.Its bizarre given the size of this camera that they couldnt figure out how to put a full size port on it. First, the OP, TheOwl360, is known for posting negative messages about Canon and equipment other than Sony. The second aspect is called HF Anti-Flicker and is designed to work with the much faster flicker of LED lights and display panels. To get Eye Control to work, you need to go through a calibration process, looking at a series of dots around the viewfinder and hitting a button to confirm when you're doing so. We're Noct messing around with this review. On the R3 you get the full range of capabilities offered by an EOS-1D X Mark III with WFT wireless transmitter attached; meaning you direct from camera FTP file transfer, for instance. @mikegtGood to know - and a bit of a surprise . In other words the trade off is not the old pros need small files but is between speed and resolution. Every angle except the bottom. I never said underwhelming. I figured if there was any camera that should be able to handle an event like this, the R3 was it, and I was right. 20MP is so yesterday. Sports and action pros would not desire to use a camera destined for the wild wet and woolly with a bunch of screens and other stuff hanging off it attached by any sort of connector - a more compact one is fine for any later work they may do. A little compassion and maturity on forums/comments goes a long ways to finding the truth together. Then they put it in the FX3, which is the same camera inside. Since there is no technical, cost or size reason why a full-size HDMI port could not be used on the R3, the only answer left is that it was done to protect Canon's Cinema line. Also, I am very concerned about exposure, contrast, color and I find the EVF's add/distort/change what I was seeing. This complaint about the EVF has gotten old years ago, and is being used as a token to portray a high sense of entitlement. this r3 will be a big step up from all of the 1dxmk* cameras, among other things it'll have much better af and better p.q., including for shooting kitesurfing. Even the grip for the R5 & R6 (same model number actually) has this feature. Of note, some didn't get cameras to test like Gerald Undone who highlighted the downsides of the R5/R6 last time? Observe, be aware, and shoot. I was shooting my R5 in e-shutter yesterday, and it was eating batteries alive. Fast continuous shooting, reliable autofocus and great battery life are just three of the most important factors. If the pointer does not seem to follow your gaze closely, perform calibration again. Not that anything I say will fall on anything but deaf ears with you. 80MP at 15fps. What we won't know, without further testing, is how much the temperature restrictions hold back the camera's video capabilities in real-world shooting. No other way the way I see it. Second, we all can see through this comment, because the OP is making assertions about a feature he has never even used before. But will it work accurately, consistently, effortlessly in a real-world use-case? To focus at the position of the tracking frame, look at the tracking frame. I agree. I am in extreme sun I must shoot into the sun and shots are back-lit. Canon did ECAF in video in 1999. It is not much different than their entry level FF camera.". Your link to camera size tells me that size is your primary measure.This is where I feel you are mistaken. Thanks. Pointer visibility can be set to [On], [Shtg standby], or [Off]. There's also the option to use a ~APS-C/Super35 crop to deliver natively sampled DCI or UHD 4K footage. I have used EVF cameras for years, but have never experienced problems with using the viewfinder on sunny days. We've taken the Nikon Z8 bike racing and into the hills as we work towards a review of Nikon's sports/landscape/everything camera. Regular old full frame sensors are cheap, but full frame stacked BSI sensors are not as as cheap and will definitely have a lower yield and higher unit price, possibly paving the way for a crop stacked BSI sensor R7 camera. Im especially impressed by the looks of the ergos and button lay out. As a fact I have been long frustrated with the fact that Canon ONLY offered top performance in MASSIVE bodies. Plenty of folks commenting but very few have picked it up. Lol mate I've been using it on my EOS 50E which is 25 years old and it works great. Because when the 6D and D600 at 2000 dollars they were considered super affordable.
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